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HERCULES HANSEN ([personal profile] twelvelabours) wrote in [community profile] therookery2016-02-26 02:48 pm

this is my first network post in this game oh god i hope i don't ruin it

FORM: sending crystal
SENDER: Hercules Hansen
RECIPIENT: locked to Grey Wardens! Grey Wardens only club!!!
WHAT: Anders & what do with him: a Grey Warden opinions discussion
WHEN: late Guardian /mumbles vaguely - set after Anders turns himself into Herc, before Leliana deduces is identity
WHERE: Skyhold
NOTES:
This is regarding the Anders reveal plot, as discussed in this ooc post and as a follow-on from this log thread.
Threadjacking and hopping around encouraged!
If you'd like a thread with Herc to turn to actionspam for characters in Skyhold, go for it.



Wardens. We’ve got something important to discuss. If you’re not someplace private, stop listening now, drop whatever it is you’re doing, and get somewhere suitable. This is strictly Warden business.

( This is not the happy and friendly Herc. This is tense and angry Herc, even with his temper very carefully kept in check.

He leaves a pause to allow them to either stop listening without him accidentally unveiling something, if they need to, takes a breath, and carries on. There might be the sound of wind whipping behind him as he stands on the ramparts - what you can’t hear is the sound of him trying to reduce Anders to ash with his gaze. )


A Grey Warden who left our numbers has handed himself in to answer for crimes committed. Not against the Grey Wardens, but against Kirkwall and the Chantry. Some of you already know this man. Some of you knew him by the adopted name ‘Detlef.’ Others will just know the crimes of the mage Anders.

( Considering how to continue, what to say next, Herc exhales a moment. What a day. )

Anders has turned himself into us of his own free will, ( which unfortunately denied Herc the chance to tackle-slam him face first into a wall, ho hum ) and confessed to blowing up the Kirkwall Chantry, an act he claims was for the sake of mage freedom.

( He pauses, there. )

I don’t have much of a personal stake in that. I’m not a man of the Chantry, and I’m not a mage. Far as I’m concerned, there’s mages and there’s mages. The likes of Bethany and Kaiden have saved my life more times than I can count. Others can be dangerous, and I reckon the same goes for Templars, same as any other person. You’ve got honourable ones, and you’ve got monstrosities.

Now, I don’t even know all about what was happening in Kirkwall, back then, but I can’t say I’m a fan of killing some innocent people for the sake of saving other innocent people, one way or the other.
( Sounds like a pile of crap to him, personally. ) And as Grey Wardens, our roles is to try and protect all of Thedas. From the Blight and darkspawn, usually, but I don’t think innocent lives being lost, no matter who they belong to, sits well with any of us.

( Still. )

But Nathaniel reminded me that we all know how much someone can change, and that we all come to the Wardens for different reasons. Atonement is one, but Anders’ fate isn’t something any one of us can decide. He’s one of our own, and he’s our responsibility. Speak up with your thoughts.

Whatever our decision is, we are telling the Inquisition. The Wardens integrity isn’t going to be compromised any further.
sunshinethroughgrey: (Hawke Determination)

[personal profile] sunshinethroughgrey 2016-02-26 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, my sister. Someone who has more reason than anyone to hate him, to wish him dead for the crimes he committed in a city she dedicated her life to. Marian could have just as easily slit his throat, Hercules. She did not.

[Which is her standing up for her sister, and that done, now standing up for herself.] Beyond that, we are Grey Wardens. Who among us is without grave sin? Certainly not I, nor you, nor Nathaniel.

[She paused herself, as Nathaniel answered, then she added right after him.]

We're looking at a slow progression and not in a direction we want Anders to go. Any of us.
byblow: (41)

[personal profile] byblow 2016-02-26 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
A few of us are without grave sin, thank you.

[ here 2 help. ]
pinprick: there is no other way (When the priests of pride say)

[personal profile] pinprick 2016-02-26 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
[Testily:]

That is very much up for debate.
unbrokenoath: (Are you shitting me)

[personal profile] unbrokenoath 2016-02-26 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
[ Kaisa bursts in with something to contribute, whether or not Alistair had anything to say. ]

You know that the Inquisition is going to try to steamroll us as soon as they find out, right? They know we're not in the strongest position right now. We need them, if we're going to help the rest of our Order. They know that.

They're going to decide he's their responsibility. They'll try to override our responsibility.

[ She sounds exactly 0% surprised about any of this, and like she's already thought a bit about it. ]
unbrokenoath: (Really)

[personal profile] unbrokenoath 2016-02-26 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
...You're right. If he stays here, it's only a matter of time. Then it'll be too late.

[ She doesn't sound happy about it, but it makes sense. ]

But I agree that we need to stand behind him. We're already fractured enough. I'm not going to throw another one of us to the dogs, not now. Anders has proven that he's here to help.
pinprick: (When the dark night seems endless)

[personal profile] pinprick 2016-02-26 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
If we hadn't failed him first, he wouldn't have committed the crime. It's already on our heads.

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paperwing: (death itself was undone)

[personal profile] paperwing 2016-02-26 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Not only them. The Council of Magi will want a say in this. He may be a Warden, but his crimes are against them. [Us, she wants to say.

But she is a Warden first.]
They will ask.
Edited 2016-02-26 12:24 (UTC)

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byblow: (49)

[personal profile] byblow 2016-02-26 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
[ On his end, there is a long, telling silence--the kind where he would normally be looking at someone and trying to discern whether or not that was a rhetorical question. Or a trick one.

But there's Kaisa, saving his ass. Nice. ]

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doneisdone: (Default)

[personal profile] doneisdone 2016-02-26 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
A grave crime, and one that shook Thedas to its core indeed, but I for one am interested to hear what the lad has to say for himself before we toss him to the greater authorities.
unbrokenoath: (Heeey)

[personal profile] unbrokenoath 2016-02-26 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
[ Bro fist :> ]
sunshinethroughgrey: (Oh you!)

[personal profile] sunshinethroughgrey 2016-02-26 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Only small sins then?

[Is Bethany's tart reply.]
byblow: (1)

[personal profile] byblow 2016-02-26 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Medium sins for me, I think. None at all for Sabriel.
sunshinethroughgrey: (Mischief!)

[personal profile] sunshinethroughgrey 2016-02-26 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I think she must have one or two sins in there. Maybe she stuck her tongue out at a Chantry sister once. We've all done that one.

... all right Marian and Carver did that one.
paperwing: (swear this isn't me)

[personal profile] paperwing 2016-02-26 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
[it's funny you should mention that]

Unwanted sin, if there were any.
sunshinethroughgrey: (Hawke Determination)

[personal profile] sunshinethroughgrey 2016-02-26 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
[Here there is a pause, a very telling pause. To let Hercules know there were things she needed to tell him, but not where certain people, certain 'things' could hear.]

First, we very firmly insure that Anders is put under our protection. I'm not saying we shield him - I am saying that we tell the advisers that he came to us of his own free will and turned himself over. We ask that, as Grey Wardens ... considering he already has a death sentence called the Calling over his head which may, or may not, be coming for us right now, that we keep him alive and utilize him as a resource.

After all, Justice was not affected by Corypheus's mind control. At all. That is an advantage we should take advantage of, and so should the Inquisition.

As for everything else ... we take care of that after we take care of Erimond.
byblow: (8)

[personal profile] byblow 2016-02-26 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Okay, he'll stop being difficult now and chime in: ]

He's been here for months. He's saved lives. [ One in particular. ] I think he's at least earned a chance to die doing something better than appeasing a mob.
pinprick: (When the dark wood fell before me)

[personal profile] pinprick 2016-02-26 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[Oh...

...Okay, wow. Alistair said a good thing. Color Nate surprised.]
unbrokenoath: (What)

[personal profile] unbrokenoath 2016-02-26 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
We could have some of the people he's helped step forward. Have them write something down? Something like a petition, I guess...?

I mean--

[ Small sigh. ]

--The people he's helped. Have them speak up, either on paper or in person. That might help sway the Inquisition.
paperwing: (a lonesome figure gleamed)

[personal profile] paperwing 2016-02-26 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[Anders might have been a mage in Kirkwall, but so was Bethany.]

You were there, Bethany. How bad had Kirkwall become?
sunshinethroughgrey: (Grey Warden)

[personal profile] sunshinethroughgrey 2016-02-26 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
[A deep, shaky breath.]

It was bad. Very bad. My sister and brother insisted that I stay hidden all the time - that I never go anywhere without them for fear the Templars would take me back to the Circle. Becoming a Warden saved my life, in more ways than one. Even when we came back through Kirkwall, I could see the strain - the string thinning before it snapped. I walked through the Circle, and saw how many Tranquils there were - dozens as opposed to perhaps a single dozen.

It was Anders who ended that - who saved hundreds of mages from becoming Tranquil even before he blew up the Chantry, at great risk to his own personal safety. For all his sins, he has always been someone who thought of others first.
paperwing: (you were right)

[personal profile] paperwing 2016-02-26 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
[Kirkwall has always been a story to her, really; it's different hearing an account from someone who was there. She's a mage. She knows how - not positive, but, what a Circle could be, what it should be. She's a mage, so it's easier to imagine Perendale in such a state. The strain that wold put unto someone. The thought of seeing everyone she knew, Tranquil, just because they could. Her mother might have shared that fate, had she not been in Perendale.

Sabriel exhales.]


I understand. Thank you.

I'm sorry for having made you relive that, Bethany.

[She is, truly.]