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Wysteria Poppell ([personal profile] heirring) wrote in [community profile] therookery2022-05-21 09:48 pm

crystal;


FORM: Crystal
SENDER: Richard Dickerson & Wysteria de Foncé
RECIPIENT: You All
NOTES: The highly scientific results from studying a not-so-recent amputation, and a call for volunteers (don't worry, it's not volunteering to get your limbs chopped off). Wysteria is in blue. Richard is in green.


Hello everyone. This is Madame de Foncé speaking, accompanied by Mister Dickerson. There is a whole report written up on the matter which we wish to discuss today. Anyone curious will find it filed among the Project Felandaris records. However, we agreed [sure that's the word for 'Wysteria bullied Richard into it'] that discussing the broad points in a more public venue might do some good.

Go ahead, Mister Dickerson.


Dissection of Madame de Foncé’s arm revealed extensions of the anchor growing outward along the vascular system, confirming the existing supposition that as much of the affected limb should be taken as possible to ensure an anchor is truly separated from its host.

[ There is an odd beat where it seems likely Mister Dickerson is hoping for Wysteria to chirp back in before he continues: ]

It further appears that lyrium has an affinity for -- [ more quietly ] Rifter flesh, for lack of a more delicate distinction. When exposed to Madame de Foncé’s arm it made a fleeting attempt to regrow the parts of her that were missing. [ So the rest of the Wysteria? Another pause. He doesn’t deign to specify. ]

We believe it may hold promise as a healing agent for Rifters if applied topically.

[Which brings them to the true aim of this whole endeavor, the enthusiasm for which has Wysteria's clipping in so briskly after him that there's almost no pause at all between 'if applied topically,' and—]

And so Mister Dickerson and I would like to make a request for volunteers from among the Rifter population. We would like to make a more thorough study of the effects of lyrium on us. I have prepared a sort of sign up form and have posted it on the door of Project Felandaris' office. If you would please add your name to it, Mister Dickerson, and myself, and indeed the general record would be most grateful.

That's all. Thank you. Ask whatever questions you wish to.


[Slightly muffled then, as if the crystal has been lowered away from the general nexus of conversation, Wysteria continues on in the same breath, 'You see, Mister Dickerson? That wasn't painful in the slightest. I hardly see why you were so hesitant—']
youwonscience: (Nothing really touches bro)

[personal profile] youwonscience 2022-05-23 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
[She knows Wysteria enough to know that the breeziness of her tone is almost certainly genuine, but it still gives Cosima just a moment of pause.]

I'm sure the report's pretty thorough, though I can give the Venatori their own extensive section in the "what not to do" ethics report.

For what it's worth, their lyrium experiments were injection or force-feeding, at least on me and the others I talked to. I didn't hear about any regeneration, though it doesn't seem like it was what they were looking for, either.
youwonscience: (you're on your own)

[personal profile] youwonscience 2022-05-23 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
No, yeah, that's fair. I can talk to you about it if it would help, though probably I could be more specific if I knew exactly what you were planning to do. And I'd prefer to talk about it more privately, if that's okay.
youwonscience: (take a ladder to the shadows)

Action

[personal profile] youwonscience 2022-05-23 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
[Under the assumption it would take longer to say she's coming than just to go, as Cosima was already in the Research department workspace, she heads over to the Felandaris office and knocks on the door frame.]

Still fielding crystal responses, or has it calmed down a bit?
youwonscience: (Every little bit’s got a billion bits)

[personal profile] youwonscience 2022-05-27 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Look, we've known each other long enough I know you're trying to help. And you did ask for volunteers, which like ... my concerns are mainly about informed consent, but it's not like you're trying to force anyone to participate.

[She takes some comfort in the fact that Riftwatch continues to not only be not the Venatori, but also not even the Dyad Institute.]

You just hit a lot of things people are wary of at the same time. Rifters, lyrium, anchor shards, you know? That's gonna get people's backs up.
youwonscience: (Still you've been waiting for me here)

[personal profile] youwonscience 2022-05-27 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Well, we have some templars running around, they might be more useful about what it does on like ... a human body level. My own research has been largely cellular. And I can tell you what the Venatori did but I don't know if it's going to be any more helpful than the original report, it was years ago now.
youwonscience: (You know me better than I do)

cw for nonexplicit mention of torture

[personal profile] youwonscience 2022-06-04 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
In fairness to you, the main guy was very high on his own supply. All I have unlocked the secrets of life and you are an insignificant worm, I'm sure you know the type.

[She settles on one of the other stools.]

When he finally believed I wasn't lying to him about being a scientist, he mostly wanted information from me about my own world's natural laws. But more broadly, as best I could tell, I think they were looking to see how much exposure to lyrium rifter bodies could stand. They were also using blood magic on the captives, I think to make sure none of us died before they wanted us to. The asshole I interacted with the most he was,

[A pause.]

...offended, I think. That rifters had access to Thedas's magic in any way. He framed it as taking something that didn't belong to us.
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nonvenomous: (...)

[personal profile] nonvenomous 2022-06-04 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Mr. Richard Dickerson has paused in the open doorway -- a lean, silent figure listening with a book in hand. The book is smaller than the average research tome, in the dimensions of its cover if not its page count. The title on the spine is obscured by his grip.

He looks from Cosima to Wysteria, but any uncertainty about his pause is fleeting, shifted quickly into calculation.

He wants to hear this more than he wants to be polite, and there are plenty of cabinets near the door for him to squirrel this novel in as casually as one might place away a jar of preserving brine. Once it’s away, he’ll hook up a spare stool and wind his way over to take a seat while they speak. ]
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youwonscience: (I love you more)

[personal profile] youwonscience 2022-06-16 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
To be clear, everything about his ideology was nonsense.

[Just to make sure we're all on the same page. She glances at Richard, a bare nod, but doesn't otherwise comment on his appearance.]

And he didn't kill any of our people, no. We got rescued before any of us actually hit our limits. I mean, I guess it's possible there was an unlucky rifter or two that the Venatori got to before the Inquisition did, but if so I didn't pick it up from his methods or his monologue.
nonvenomous: (pic#14254262)

scumbag rockefeller: tags in, immediately loses notif

[personal profile] nonvenomous 2022-07-04 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Richard nods back, disinclined to interrupt.

Even once he’s settled, he waits for a beat of quiet to hedge in with a politely and assuredly scientifically-based, medically-concerned, magically-prescient: ]


In what way were they utilizing blood magic to keep you alive?
youwonscience: (When you think it might)

[personal profile] youwonscience 2022-07-07 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
[This time, at least, the grimace isn't (directly) about ethics.]

I wish I could tell you more about that. This was really soon after I first came to Thedas, and as far as I know, there's no magic in my world. None I was exposed to, anyway. So the main thing I could tell at the time was they were either using our blood or, more occasionally, either a junior researcher or probably a slave? It was hard to do much recon while being actively tortured. As far as subjectively, um.

[She exhales.]

It felt different than spirit healing. More, uh, brute force knitting a wound or an injury back together. Then again, they weren't concerned about pain or getting it 100% better, they just didn't want us to die mid-experiment.
nonvenomous: (pic#14254291)

[personal profile] nonvenomous 2022-07-10 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
[ This would be consistent with what Captain Holden described. Mr. Dickerson nods again, whiskers smoothed through a glance to Wysteria in search of missing context. ]

Were there physical maladies caused by the ingestion of lyrium that required healing?

[ Or was this an all around senseless torture party with incidental lyrium exposure? ]
youwonscience: (machine saw everything it had created)

[personal profile] youwonscience 2022-07-13 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I guess it depends on how you count things as "physical." For me personally, I had hallucinations and disorientation, which everything I've heard about lyrium leads me to believe were probably chemical effects on my actual brain. Besides that, uh, there was ... fatigue, thirst unaffected by water. Cold hands. The others had similar symptoms, as far as I heard. But I don't think the healers had much they could do besides keep us comfortable while the effects wore off with time.

That said, I was in bad shape when I got back to Skyhold, so it's possible they did things I don't remember or wasn't conscious for.
nonvenomous: (thinking)

[personal profile] nonvenomous 2022-07-22 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
[ Mr. Dickerson’s primary takeaway is that lyrium sounds very useful, honestly, as a means of torturing Rifters. Neither of them can see into his skull, but there’s a particular pull at the corner of his mouth that reads more hmm, curious than that’s terrible. ]

Do you recall anything about what you hallucinated?

[ He glances to Wysteria’s notes as if to see how detailed they are for the purpose of cheating off of them later. ]
youwonscience: (But a kaleidoscope)

[personal profile] youwonscience 2022-07-22 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
[Whether Cosima's discomfort comes from their reactions, returning to a fairly traumatic memory, or both is unclear. After a short pause, though, she does answer.]

It's been a long time, and I wasn't in any shape to take a lot of notes then. But my memory is that it was largely a mix of paranoia — bugs under my skin, eyes in the walls, that kind of thing — and disorientation in time and place. Seeing people I knew at home who aren't in Thedas, confusion about who it was who was torturing me and why.
nonvenomous: (pic#14254262)

[personal profile] nonvenomous 2022-07-31 08:56 am (UTC)(link)
[ Dick’s nod catches mid-tilt at the transition from bugs in the wall to people at home. It continues on after a pause, hung up on the grass burr catch of his curiosity. ]

Thank you, [ he says, upon tracing back over the last minute or so of discomfort. ] This will help us to know what we should look out for. [ And how best to phrase any warnings they issue to volunteers in such a way that the experience doesn’t sound like torture. ]

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