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arcaneadvisor ([personal profile] arcaneadvisor) wrote in [community profile] therookery2018-06-07 07:01 pm

crystal

FORM: Sending crystal
SENDER: Morrigan
RECIPIENT: All
WHAT: Let's talk about what god is aka so you found a troubling thing and need to address that one day
WHEN: Post-tourney
WHERE: Kirkwall/Kirkwall-adjacent
NOTES: If you want to push Morrigan on certain things you can certainly try but her finding Geldauran's Claim isn't public knowledge yet given the possibility for it to be highly inflammatory, especially with the rifter status and the Dalish in positions of power in the Inquisition


What do you believe gods are Inquisition? Do you indeed believe that there are gods? The Chantry that likes to press and to meddle might not be for all but there are many of those who will still have the name of the Maker upon their lips in a time of strife. The Dalish have the Creators. The Avvar have beliefs about spirits and gods, and the Chasind have gods of a fashion, men and women beloved of them.

Rifters need not be shy in answering, I ask about...what a god is. What it might be. If it is a thing indeed. Something far beyond the comprehension of any mortal being, shifting even beyond the Veil or Fade that we might never know what it truly is, or if it might something else. Something closer to flesh and blood fashioned long ago. Shaped in the way the world is shaped.

[That phrase turned over and over: There is only the subject and the object, the actor and the acted upon.]

Perhaps… [and well she might as well voice a possibility when they're in Kirkwall where the Veil was stretched so thin long ago] once 'twas possible to raise those of ambition and power as high as the magisters of old Tevinter, to leave terror and awe in their wake depending on the mood, the whim, the offering.

[Eventually...well eventually there will be a report, but until she can trust how to write it, can know what the reception might be when it dares to leave the small group that know even the truth of what lies deep in the Tirashan, she can't bring her hand to write it.]
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[personal profile] coiledscales 2018-06-13 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
That does sound like a fascinating tale, but perhaps one better shared in person, over a cup of tea or something like that. It sounds fascinating, if also rather unpleasant.

[ Alacruun's interest is most certainly piqued. He would love to hear more about a first-hand encounter with a demon and if she's willing to provide that information, he certainly won't complain one wit. He clicks his tongue and listens for a moment, sorting the information she gives him and trying to organize it all in his head. He's also writing some of it down. It's very similar to much of what he's already ready, but getting opinions holds value as well. ]

My magic is considerably weaker than it used to be and I find myself much more limited in what I can do with it and with what spells I can cast. Some of it is beyond my reach entirely, even if I remember the correct words and gestures. As if my power is being throttled - or perhaps simple because magic is manipulated differently in this plane of existence. I remain... unsure. And have no way to test that particular hypothesis.

[ Alas. ]

There are more than a few mortals who would love to have the power of a god. But there are very, very few with the power and determination to see such a plan through to the end. It takes a great deal of determination and a ruthlessness that many people do not have. You are, after all, seeking to be able to control the fabric of the universe itself.
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[personal profile] coiledscales 2018-06-15 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Sundermount. I'll remember that. One of these days I probably will drop by; it would be very interesting to exchange notes and see what we can glean.

[ He may be a self-centered, would-be tyrant, but he's also a giant nerd. So this stuff really gets him interested. ]

I won't worry too over-much about the 'things'. I have dealt with magic and things from beyond the planes before.

[ He has and he's a bit arrogant about it. He assumes he has everything under control, until he doesn't. ]

Somniari. I don't know enough about the Fade yet to even offer a theory on all of the magic and possibilities that exist in this world, but I hope to be able to one day. Or at least offer a decent comparison to the magic of my own home. There is something to that, though - the idea that the gods may not truly be gods, simply very powerful beings that can be killed or cast down like any other. I believe that to be true of most gods, although it is perhaps a hypothesis that cannot be proven without great personal risk.

[ He's prattling on a bit. ]
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[personal profile] coiledscales 2018-06-17 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Then I would have to reevaluate a great many choices I've made and it would be... interesting, to say the least. I can't be sure of what I would say to that, but it would be very enlightening.

[ There's the sound of a considering 'hrmmm' and Alacruun thinks for a long, long moment. He has intended to become a god himself. He came very close last time, but here he is just another mortal. He has no desire to try that here, where the rules are very different and his skill with magic less. No, here he just needs to survive.

Although the talk of gods intrigues him, as always.
]

But I have never known a god to simply abandon their followers. At least... not in all of the lore that I read. If they did - well. That would again change the equation.
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[personal profile] coiledscales 2018-06-20 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Nothing can ever really be ruled out with any certainty, although you can eliminate choices due to how low the probability. At least... that's what I think about such things.

[ He also tends to get surprised when he loses control, mostly because of his ego, but that doesn't seem very relevant to the discussion. ]

The dragons here are very different from the dragons I know, so I'm afraid I'm not in a good position to opine on the subject, having only read scattered accounts in books of how your dragons tend to act and behave. Although - gods do change shape, I imagine, for their own purposes. But they still need followers and worshippers - else they wouldn't be gods. So perhaps they have different guises, but aren't completely alien from another identity they took up.
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[personal profile] coiledscales 2018-06-22 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Can she?

[ Despite himself, there is a note of interest in his voice. That sounds promising to him, for a variety of reasons. He makes a low noise - a sort of clearing of the throat - and then continues. ]

Where I am from, dragons are known to change themselves to humanoid shapes at times and some wizards can take the shape of dragons themselves, but... I gather that it's a rather rarer power here. If it's so, it wouldn't surprise me that she could potentially make people think that she's some sort of goddess...
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[personal profile] coiledscales 2018-06-25 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I've only read of abominations, never seen or encountered one.

[ He sounds thoughtful. ]

It's an interesting story. So I would like to ask your opinion. Do you believe your mother is truly that old? Or that she taught magic to the Chasind? You've more experience of her than I.
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[personal profile] coiledscales 2018-06-26 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I know of those with particularly long lives where I hail from, but that is due to their nature. Elves, for example, live for hundreds of years. And dragons can be thousands upon thousands of years old. Here, however... most people seem to live a rather shorter lifespan.

[ He seems to consider this for a moment. ]

I know of ways to prolong life - or at least stave off death. But again, this is new territory to me in this world.
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[personal profile] coiledscales 2018-06-28 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Ah.

[ That's a missing piece of the puzzle. And an interesting one. He's not all that horrified, but he is intrigued. ]

I admit, I would feel much the same were I in your shoes. I enjoy my body and being in control of it.
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[personal profile] coiledscales 2018-07-01 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Sensible. I'd not want to risk such, either. I put far too much value on being free in my own body.

[ Or, uh, someone else's, but he's quietly not mentioning that and it's mostly irrelevant to the discussion since it's beyond his powers here, anyway. ]

If I ever meet your mother, I'll be sure to remember that note of caution.