We do not yet have numbers. We do not know how many we can get out. It is... It is still chaotic.

[His voice is stressed and for once on the quieter side - they're trying to escape rather than draw attention.]

I am trying to get refugees to my family's estate and from there to Kirkwall, but it is two trips. I would say we may be able to get as few as fifty out at first. But I do not know. Some of us are being told very little.

[And it's getting to him.]