I feel as if that's sort of what I'm getting at. In a way. You could influence a spirit just with your...influencing it, ( if they were discussing this in person there'd probably be some kind of flappy hand gesture around 'your influencing it' because the fuck does gwen know about how a mage does literally anything, ) but to get an abomination out of a person you can't simply have soul and feelings equals firing off magic in every direction, you've got to have that other thing, the demon as well.

And I'm sober.