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abella ([personal profile] undergrunn) wrote in [community profile] therookery2024-08-19 08:27 pm

crystal; fighting evil by ____light


FORM: sending crystal
SENDER: Abella
RECIPIENT: the whole gremlin collection
NOTES: Likely discussion of a battle royale, potential discussion of possession/monstrosities.


Good evening, Riftwatch.

( There's the sound of wind in the background - it's not too hard to tell she's outside. Some might be able to guess she's up on the ramparts, exposed to the harsher winds lashing in from across the sea.

She isn't looking at the sea, though. Her gaze is on those two moons. If she lets her focus drift it's almost like that leering smile stretches across them, before she comes back to herself.

Despite all that, she sounds warm and upbeat. )


I've been thinking a lot about time. How it passes, specifically, in our worlds back home. I've tried to do some reading in the library and looking for older communications on the network, but there's so much and I don't really know where to start or what names to look for.

When I got here, I left a situation where myself and some others were on a countdown, and... I know it's naive to hope they'd arrive here too, when even one person getting here seems like it would require so many variables coming together. Getting multiple people from the same world would be remote, let alone ones that know each other.

( Unless there's some factor about that first person that would be shared by people they know that might increase the likelihood? She sips the glorified vinegar masquerading as wine - sad new rifter budget, etc - and pushes logical enquiry out of her mind, for now. )

The point is that with how unlikely them coming here is, I'm stuck on how time works. I need to at least try to figure out if it's been weeks for them, or if maybe a month here is just a half hour, back home.

( Or something. Anything, really. )

If anyone knows, I'd really appreciate it.

( Abella tries to inject a little upbeat energy in at the end, like it can mask all the worry and everything else. )

Unless anyone else has turned up talking about a real jerk of a moon. If that sounds familiar, send them my way.
youwonscience: (Every little bit’s got a billion bits)

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[personal profile] youwonscience 2024-08-19 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, so. I've got some relevant facts, and I have some stuff I can't prove but that's supported by observation. You want both or just the former?

[Her tone is quiet, sympathetic but not condescending. It's not like she can't relate.]
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[personal profile] portalling 2024-08-19 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
How does time work? Simply put: unreliably. Nobody knows.

There doesn’t seem to be a correlation between how fast or slow it passes, or doesn’t. The former Provost Stark and I were from the same world, and he originally came from a time several years before mine — but it’s not like he got pulled into a rift to Thedas and vanished one day. He was still around, in my experience of the world. Indications are that life and existence goes on in some form; there might still be another you, back where you came from.
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[personal profile] ipseite 2024-08-19 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
( chiming in here, specifically, to support this point: )

I've reason to think so. I arrived in Thedas at a certain point in my life; during the course of my time here, I eventually experienced ... an extreme acquisition of memories, from a life that had continued without me. I remember experiences that my body has not been through. They were confirmed, in a manner of speaking, by the eventual arrival of someone who I knew through those memories, at an age and time impossible to align with my own.
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[personal profile] youwonscience 2024-08-19 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe. Dunno what your tolerance for the existential is.

So to start with the fact part. I've had people I know come and go, here. None of our timelines matched exactly. A couple from my future, but longer in the future than the time I'd experienced passing here. One from a little way back in what was past for me. [She exhales.] I've been here twice, and remember both times, but we have rifters — who appear a second time with no memory of being here before. For me, it felt like about a year passed between the first time I came, and the second, in my home world; it had been longer than that in Thedas. And we have rifters who don't vanish, but receive new memories of home. The amount of memory, as far as I've been told, doesn't correspond in any particular way to how long they've been in Thedas.

So I think it's safe to say there's no reliable link between the time you experience here and what's happening where you're from. I'm sorry, that's got to be a bit frustrating. First time I was here, I was also under the gun for a time-sensitive problem at home and I know that can eat at you.
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[personal profile] ipseite 2024-08-20 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
My younger daughter. She arrived a woman grown, from a future no version of myself will know; I remember her birth, her early childhood, but I, physically, never experienced it.

She is and is not my own; I am and am not the woman who mothered her. If I had not been certain, already, of the truth of those memories, ( a nightmare she might have convinced herself had been no more than that, ) then for her to exist at all would have proven them.

The fade is a thing that is touched, typically, by minds and not hands. We have— dreamed ourselves into being. A path diverged.
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[personal profile] portalling 2024-08-20 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I don’t know if this is more or less distressing to you, but I do feel fairly confident in saying it would be you. Genuinely, properly you; not a doppelganger, not some nefarious clone, not an imposter. Tony Stark was still himself, all those years at home.

( If anything, they’re the copies here in Thedas, but. He’ll avoid triggering that particular existential crisis if he can. )
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[personal profile] ipseite 2024-08-20 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
( petrana sets her crystal down until it sounds like speaking, again, presuming that abella would enjoy the audience as little as she wishes to listen.

if she seems cold, it's by choice; a self-protective armour. the dispassionate recounting of things immense, emotional: she is little willing to discuss them, certainly publicly, any other way. it is useful to volunteer the information. it is not a conversation she is equipped to have in a way other than offering information.
)

That is the nature of the fade. It is, in essence, irrelevant how time functions: it seems, based on the experiences we have documented here, that in a very real sense you never left your world.
youwonscience: (you're on your own)

[personal profile] youwonscience 2024-08-20 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
[Whether not Cosima has clocked that Abella is crying, there's still clearly sympathy in her tone.]

Um, first time I was here, I'd been working on a cure for a terminal genetic illness. Here in Thedas, spirit healing was keeping my condition stable, but I wasn't the only member of my family with it and spirit healing isn't, uh, a thing where I'm from.

[She doesn't know enough about Abella's world to know if there's any kind of magic there, but it's not important to press for now.]

Came back cured, the second time. I remember finding the cure, at home, too. I'd be lying if I said that wasn't a major relief.

[Even with what she knows, and what she suspects ... she still believes there's a world where her sisters exist and where they have a cure now. It matters.]
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[personal profile] ipseite 2024-08-20 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
It is not the same for me as it is for you.

( she says it gently, but it is a closed door. )

What has been of use to me will not aid you.
aberratic: (𝟏𝟓𝟖.)

[personal profile] aberratic 2024-08-20 02:41 am (UTC)(link)

[ ness has no help to offer as far as timeline issues, but— ]

Do you need cleaning? I can help.

[ you know. the vomit. ]

laruetheday: it's like, we get it. (every jazz song is like 40 minutes long.)

[personal profile] laruetheday 2024-08-20 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
You should try and forget your life before this.
aberratic: (𝟏𝟑𝟖.)

[personal profile] aberratic 2024-08-20 02:55 am (UTC)(link)

[ opens mouth. closes mouth. thinks about it a little more whille nina looks at what prestidigitation can do. ]

Not mouthwash, no. Are you squeamish about magic?

aberratic: (𝟏𝟒𝟕.)

[personal profile] aberratic 2024-08-20 03:05 am (UTC)(link)

[ what. the fuck. ]

I was just going to say I might be able to magic your teeth clean, is all. I haven't tried, but it could work, I think.

laruetheday: against my will (they're forcing me to help people)

[personal profile] laruetheday 2024-08-20 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
No, not at first. But it makes it easier. And maybe forget's not the right word. But the more time you spend wondering what the people you left behind are doing or how much time has passed for them, the harder it will be to accept that's not your life anymore.
aberratic: (𝟏𝟑𝟓.)

[personal profile] aberratic 2024-08-20 03:18 am (UTC)(link)

There shouldn't be. It's just a cantrip, really, a little charm. it can't hurt anything. Worst thing it'll do is not work.

I use it to avoid having to do actual tedious cleaning. It's very useful.

laruetheday: (i regret nothing. the end.)

[personal profile] laruetheday 2024-08-20 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
Life's not fair.

Besides, they don't know you're gone. But maybe one of them will come through a rift someday. You never know.
aberratic: (𝟏𝟐𝟓.)

[personal profile] aberratic 2024-08-20 03:30 am (UTC)(link)

Cal—no!

[ she's trying to make a FRIEND why would she try to throw caltrops at your teeth!!! ]

It's a little spell, uses barely any effort. There are spells that draw on your energy reserves and tire you out and spells that you can do all day, like... running a long distance versus walking across a room. A cantrip is like walking.

Do you want to come to me or the other way around? Whichever's easier for you is fine by me.

aberratic: (𝟏𝟑𝟐.)

[personal profile] aberratic 2024-08-20 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)

Certainly, I'll be there in a moment! Who should I be looking for?

[ the faint rustling noises coming through the crystal indicate ness is not waiting for an answer to get moving. ]

youwonscience: (You know me better than I do)

[personal profile] youwonscience 2024-08-24 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
No. [Not unkind, but definitive.] In my subjective experience... I was home, came through a rift the first time, lived years in Thedas. Went to bed here one night. Then nothing at all until I'm coming through my second rift. It didn't feel like I'd been asleep, even. I don't know if your world has general anesthesia, but like that. As if I'd just been transported directly from a few years earlier to the year I came back through again, plus some new bonus memories from my home world.

youwonscience: (Still you've been waiting for me here)

[personal profile] youwonscience 2024-08-26 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I've done some studies with the Fade, though I'm still far from an expert. I want to be clear that I'm moving into theory, here, a bit. But I know I'm not the only one who thinks the most likely thing is that the Fade touches people's minds. Not only in Thedas, but in other worlds. Independent of chronology, clearly. And your original self is still where you were.

People in Thedas have reported encountering people who have died, in the Fade. Some cultures here think the Fade is a place souls move through on their way to some other afterlife. Other think they stay there. Evidence suggests to me that, at least as a rifter, my memories of my time in Thedas before lingered in the Fade somehow. So this second time, it drew not only my memories from home, but also from my first time in Thedas. That said, I suspect my body ... I don't think it's continuous. Haven't found a good way to test it, but I vanished last time. And I came back well, even though in Thedas I hadn't been cured of the disease I cured at home.
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[personal profile] portalling 2024-08-26 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
We’re getting into nature versus nurture debates at that point. Why do you ask? Still worried that there’s some fundamental difference, some core replacement which occurred?